2 months went by way to quickly. Especially the last few weeks in dealing with a hospital stay and illness.
Dr Landers was very happy with the boys' recovery. She said the look great and their lungs sound fabulous. Even the cough is more subtle, even though it could hang around for 6 weeks. Logan weighs 10lbs 10oz (13th%) and is 21 1/4 in tall (<1%). Sawyer weighs 8lbs 15oz and is 20 1/2 inches long (the same length Evelyn was at birth and puts him less than 1% also!). Although the boys are very short, even for their adjusted age, overall they are 50% and 60% so they are just fine. Sawyer lost more weight when they were sick so he has some catching up to do, but both boys have doubled their birth weights - on strictly breastmilk!
They both got 3 shots + 1 oral vaccine, it was so sad :( breaks my heart every time. I hate to see them in pain. They weren't doing to well so I did have to give them Tylenol yesterday and overnight, but they seem to be much better today. They pretty much slept for 24 hours straight!
Friday, March 29, 2013
Thursday, March 28, 2013
Fluffy Stuff
I'm overwhelmed with gratefulness. I never expected this much fluffy stuff from that contest I won. The package finally arrived today and it was PLUMP full of awesome supplies that I would never have been able to afford on my own. I owe a huge thank you to Erin at Diaperpartys.com, as well as huge thank yous to the J12 moms, the Lovebug moms and everyone who continued to put up with my daily Facebook posts and voted everyday for us. This package was amazing!
Some items donated are brand new first qualities, some items were customer returns 1st quality, and some items are second qualities. All the diapers and supplies are fully functional!
Here's the prize!
I can't believe how fortunate we are to have recieved this prize. I was shocked to see the Bobawrap (I know nothing about these, but new I wanted a wrap like this!). I do believe I have enough supplies to get me through a few days without having to wash. I also have enough to set up more than one diaper station in my house! I can have my living room one, my bedroom one (while they are still sleeping with us) and the one in their room! How exciting!
Some items donated are brand new first qualities, some items were customer returns 1st quality, and some items are second qualities. All the diapers and supplies are fully functional!
Here's the prize!
The box was packed full! |
The stash! |
4 Swaddlebees Simplex OS (One size fits all) - side snaps |
50 cloth wipes in different brands and kinds |
A Happy Heiny Starter kit which included a bag, 3 OS pockets, 6 inserts, cloth wipes and Heiny cleaner (in a different photo) |
4 Swaddlebees OS Pockets |
7 Rumparoos OS covers |
4 NB size Blueberry fitteds for nighttime |
6 Newborn Bummis Covers |
2 Kissaluvs OS covers |
6 blueberry bamboo inserts. 2 snappis, 8 swaddlebees size 1 inserts, 12 Osocozy Stay-dry prefolds, 15 osocozy organics flat diapers, 7 Kissaluvs doublers |
4 Blueberrys OS covers |
Not only diapers were in the box!
Bobawrap, CJs Carcass Wipe Solution, CJs BUTTer, 300 loads of Eco nuts detergent, 2 Blueberry laundry bags, 2 GroVia Wet bags |
I can't believe how fortunate we are to have recieved this prize. I was shocked to see the Bobawrap (I know nothing about these, but new I wanted a wrap like this!). I do believe I have enough supplies to get me through a few days without having to wash. I also have enough to set up more than one diaper station in my house! I can have my living room one, my bedroom one (while they are still sleeping with us) and the one in their room! How exciting!
Thank you all so much! Without your constant votes, this wouldn't have been possible for us!
Saturday, March 23, 2013
2 months old! Amazing!
Wednesday, March 20, 2013
RSV - over the hump
Back into the clinic we went today to check the boys oxygen levels. I'm so lucky Evelyn is such a good girl for me and behaves beautifully when we have someplace to go.
Last night Sawyer was sleeping and appeared to be breathing completely normal, his ribs weren't retracting at all for a solid 5 minutes. He looked so peaceful. We had a rough night, the boys were coughing and gagging all night long and I was struggling to get them to eat enough. But, this morning during our steam routine, Logan was breathing completely normal, couldn't have been happier. I couldn't get my hopes up though until they were seen at the clinic again.
Going in to have them checked has me wiggins out. I was so nervous their levels didn't go up.
Amber (our nurse) watched their levels for a bit. Both boys are up from 90% to 95% and 97%! Dr Landers watched their breathing and said their breaths are far less labored, she is confident we are over the hump now! We shouldn't need to bring them back unless something changes!
We will be continuing our treatments - both neb and steam - until they are both very obviously better. But at least I can relax a bit now.
After a loss, there is nothing worse than watching your next baby (or in our case babies) struggle to eat and breath. It's the most terrifying thing to know there's not much you can do but watch them struggle and hope and pray for them to get better.
I suppose now, we can stop sleeping on the couch and return to our bed. I bet that'll feel nice.
Last night Sawyer was sleeping and appeared to be breathing completely normal, his ribs weren't retracting at all for a solid 5 minutes. He looked so peaceful. We had a rough night, the boys were coughing and gagging all night long and I was struggling to get them to eat enough. But, this morning during our steam routine, Logan was breathing completely normal, couldn't have been happier. I couldn't get my hopes up though until they were seen at the clinic again.
Going in to have them checked has me wiggins out. I was so nervous their levels didn't go up.
Amber (our nurse) watched their levels for a bit. Both boys are up from 90% to 95% and 97%! Dr Landers watched their breathing and said their breaths are far less labored, she is confident we are over the hump now! We shouldn't need to bring them back unless something changes!
We will be continuing our treatments - both neb and steam - until they are both very obviously better. But at least I can relax a bit now.
After a loss, there is nothing worse than watching your next baby (or in our case babies) struggle to eat and breath. It's the most terrifying thing to know there's not much you can do but watch them struggle and hope and pray for them to get better.
I suppose now, we can stop sleeping on the couch and return to our bed. I bet that'll feel nice.
Tuesday, March 19, 2013
RSV Check update
Last night went well. I started a routine with them: feed when hungry, neb every 4 hours, then steam in the bathroom till there's no hot water left, suction noses, repeat 4 hours later. The rest of their day is spent around out humidifier. It seems to be helping. They were sounding pretty good all the way till this morning. Even their breathing stabled out a little bit. They woke up a little rough but after doing our routine again they were a little better.
They are eating less, but are eating something. I try to make them eat every 3 hours (4 at night) for a minimum of 5 minutes. Usually they go to their normal 8-10 minutes, but it's not solid eating. They spend a lot of time latching and unlatching and little time actually eating.
Of course the breathing improvement doesn't mean much. Even though they are sounding better, they still aren't having the right amount of oxygen absorption. At their check today, they are still hovering right around 89-91, still borderline. Not better, but not worse either. The doctors say its about 50/50 if someone will respond to nebulizer treatment, it seems our boys are, at least a little bit.
You know it's bad when you go to the clinic and the nurses and staff get anxious over your babies appearance. Each time I get "I don't know how you do it, I'm getting anxiety and I've only been watching them for a few minutes. I would be a wreck. Do you sleep?" This is a loaded question/statement.
Dr Landers is the same way. "You amaze me. So put together with 3 under 3, breastfeeding twins, and just going on like you never knew any different. You were made for this." When I went in yesterday, she sat down, appeared worried. I just looked at her and said "so... Shall we talk about my mental status? (Insert exhausted/nervous chuckle)." She said "we sure can, how are you holding up?" My response: "I'm kidding, I'm ok, the kids are not."
But the reality is:
No. I don't really sleep, I set an alarm for every hour at night so I can check their status, are they breathing ok, do I need to steam them? Suction their nose? I am a wreck, I don't sleep, I'm stressed out. My animals have had almost no attention. I can't tell you the last time I actually showered (besides a quick rinse while I steam them) and I have no idea when my hair was washed. I haven't done laundry since early last week and wore the same pants 4 days in a row. I've completely stopped pumping milk (no time) and I'm lucky I even eat. I haven't put the boys in cloth diapers since Friday because I don't have time for extra diaper changes and Diaper laundry (so depressing!). My housework is at a standstill. I am failing as a friend right now. My relationship is suffering big time. I can barely keep it together. And this, is WITH help each day. But my kids are being taken care of and eating, and Evelyn is still soaring with her potty training. So I'm not failing entirely.
I am glad we are somewhere around day 6 or 7 of this RSV/bronchiolitis, hopefully that means we are right near the end and will be improving soon. I need them to improve soon. I have a lot of catching up to do...
They are eating less, but are eating something. I try to make them eat every 3 hours (4 at night) for a minimum of 5 minutes. Usually they go to their normal 8-10 minutes, but it's not solid eating. They spend a lot of time latching and unlatching and little time actually eating.
Of course the breathing improvement doesn't mean much. Even though they are sounding better, they still aren't having the right amount of oxygen absorption. At their check today, they are still hovering right around 89-91, still borderline. Not better, but not worse either. The doctors say its about 50/50 if someone will respond to nebulizer treatment, it seems our boys are, at least a little bit.
You know it's bad when you go to the clinic and the nurses and staff get anxious over your babies appearance. Each time I get "I don't know how you do it, I'm getting anxiety and I've only been watching them for a few minutes. I would be a wreck. Do you sleep?" This is a loaded question/statement.
Dr Landers is the same way. "You amaze me. So put together with 3 under 3, breastfeeding twins, and just going on like you never knew any different. You were made for this." When I went in yesterday, she sat down, appeared worried. I just looked at her and said "so... Shall we talk about my mental status? (Insert exhausted/nervous chuckle)." She said "we sure can, how are you holding up?" My response: "I'm kidding, I'm ok, the kids are not."
But the reality is:
No. I don't really sleep, I set an alarm for every hour at night so I can check their status, are they breathing ok, do I need to steam them? Suction their nose? I am a wreck, I don't sleep, I'm stressed out. My animals have had almost no attention. I can't tell you the last time I actually showered (besides a quick rinse while I steam them) and I have no idea when my hair was washed. I haven't done laundry since early last week and wore the same pants 4 days in a row. I've completely stopped pumping milk (no time) and I'm lucky I even eat. I haven't put the boys in cloth diapers since Friday because I don't have time for extra diaper changes and Diaper laundry (so depressing!). My housework is at a standstill. I am failing as a friend right now. My relationship is suffering big time. I can barely keep it together. And this, is WITH help each day. But my kids are being taken care of and eating, and Evelyn is still soaring with her potty training. So I'm not failing entirely.
I am glad we are somewhere around day 6 or 7 of this RSV/bronchiolitis, hopefully that means we are right near the end and will be improving soon. I need them to improve soon. I have a lot of catching up to do...
Monday, March 18, 2013
Scary stuff - RSV
All three kids have spent the last 3 weeks coughing and sick. I had them into the doctor twice and had a phone consult once. Despite my best efforts, the boys still ended up hospitalized.
3 weeks ago our household inherited a lovely cold, it started with Miss Evelyn and moved into the boys. First I had Evelyn into the dr, then a week later Logan was in. After 2 weeks everyone started sounding better, a few days later I was calling the clinic again cause it was getting worse. They said to wait it out.
Saturday comes around and the boys are worse. They are struggling to breath and wheezing. Their cough catches their breath. I'm not sure of anything harder than watching your babies struggle to breath.
11:30 Saturday night, I'm convinced Sawyer needs to be seen, he was really bad off and when he cried, it sounded like he lost his voice. My sister comes up to sit at the house so we can head to the children's hospital.
After listening, chest x-rays and being tested for RSV among other things, Sawyer gets a nebulizer of albuterol. It doesn't do much but does give him his cry back. They gave him a neb of epinephrine and it made a world of difference, he was sleeping and breathing soundly. The RSV came back positive and he was diagnosed with Bronchiolitis due to RSV. The doctor decided she wanted to keep him to monitor him.
We then asked them to register and look at Logan because he wasn't much better. She immediately said she would be keeping him to but that we'd go through the same battery of tests first.
They had to fight to get us a shared room, I am still breastfeeding after all, but they did and it was so much easier that way.
I was a wreck. I'm already stressed out enough and now we're adding this too. I lost it, I was crying, emotional and scared.
We got up to the room at 6am. We had three goals to meet for discharge: 1) eating/pooping/peeing enough - this one was never a problem 2) keeping their oxygen levels up - again, they were 100% when we got there and stayed right around that the whole time 3) to sleep without a struggle - this would be our challenge.
We spent the morning suctioning noses, listening to chests etc. they got another neb of epinephrine at 645am. The boys never needed any oxygen and didn't receive any more nebulizers. I was told to help myself to the patient food since I had to eat enough to feed the actual patients.
We waited. I hung out in the room, walked around, and talked to the nurses. It was boring and stressful.
At noon the boys were holding their own, they were still congested and a little wheezy, but had no problem keeping their stats up. The doctor came around and said that if the boys came in the clinic in their current condition, he wouldn't hospitalize them. After all, they weren't doing anything to really help them anyways. He said we were likely to discharge later that day or early Monday.
At 3pm, they still hadn't been doing any sort of treatment on them. They decided we could discharge, especially since they had spent all day teaching me what they were looking for.
We went home. The boys were good all night, but I still stayed up and watched, worried. By morning Logan wasn't sounding the best and Sawyer was getting worse. I called Dr landers to fill her in on everything from the weekend, she wanted to see them.
She was not happy. They were not doing well. Both were struggling to breath, both had lost a few ounces of their precious weight. Both had lower O2 numbers, borderline of needing oxygen therapy. We were at risk of returning to children's hospital. We did a neb of albuterol and surprisingly it made a slight difference. She was comfortable sending us home and gave us a prescription for albuterol/neb.
The boys were sounding pretty good, sleeping and breathing soundly. They started getting worse again so I gave them their next Neb, success for Sawyer, less for Logan but he's definitely sounded worse before.
It's going to be another long sleepless night watching my babies breath.
RSV is scary for infants, especially up to a year. Kids and adults probably get here every winter but it just presents itself as a cold. Babies just can't handle it as well, and it can be fatal. There's no treatment, just run its course and help as needed with oxygen. Even nebulizers have a low success rate against RSV.
The good news: RSV hits its peak between 5 and 7 days. We know we are at least 5 and maybe 6 days in, almost through. I the unfortunate part is that they jumped from one illness to RSV so we can't be 100% when it started, it's just an estimate. Either way, we're almost there. Just trying to avoid going back to children's.
3 weeks ago our household inherited a lovely cold, it started with Miss Evelyn and moved into the boys. First I had Evelyn into the dr, then a week later Logan was in. After 2 weeks everyone started sounding better, a few days later I was calling the clinic again cause it was getting worse. They said to wait it out.
Saturday comes around and the boys are worse. They are struggling to breath and wheezing. Their cough catches their breath. I'm not sure of anything harder than watching your babies struggle to breath.
11:30 Saturday night, I'm convinced Sawyer needs to be seen, he was really bad off and when he cried, it sounded like he lost his voice. My sister comes up to sit at the house so we can head to the children's hospital.
After listening, chest x-rays and being tested for RSV among other things, Sawyer gets a nebulizer of albuterol. It doesn't do much but does give him his cry back. They gave him a neb of epinephrine and it made a world of difference, he was sleeping and breathing soundly. The RSV came back positive and he was diagnosed with Bronchiolitis due to RSV. The doctor decided she wanted to keep him to monitor him.
We then asked them to register and look at Logan because he wasn't much better. She immediately said she would be keeping him to but that we'd go through the same battery of tests first.
They had to fight to get us a shared room, I am still breastfeeding after all, but they did and it was so much easier that way.
I was a wreck. I'm already stressed out enough and now we're adding this too. I lost it, I was crying, emotional and scared.
We got up to the room at 6am. We had three goals to meet for discharge: 1) eating/pooping/peeing enough - this one was never a problem 2) keeping their oxygen levels up - again, they were 100% when we got there and stayed right around that the whole time 3) to sleep without a struggle - this would be our challenge.
We spent the morning suctioning noses, listening to chests etc. they got another neb of epinephrine at 645am. The boys never needed any oxygen and didn't receive any more nebulizers. I was told to help myself to the patient food since I had to eat enough to feed the actual patients.
We waited. I hung out in the room, walked around, and talked to the nurses. It was boring and stressful.
At noon the boys were holding their own, they were still congested and a little wheezy, but had no problem keeping their stats up. The doctor came around and said that if the boys came in the clinic in their current condition, he wouldn't hospitalize them. After all, they weren't doing anything to really help them anyways. He said we were likely to discharge later that day or early Monday.
At 3pm, they still hadn't been doing any sort of treatment on them. They decided we could discharge, especially since they had spent all day teaching me what they were looking for.
We went home. The boys were good all night, but I still stayed up and watched, worried. By morning Logan wasn't sounding the best and Sawyer was getting worse. I called Dr landers to fill her in on everything from the weekend, she wanted to see them.
She was not happy. They were not doing well. Both were struggling to breath, both had lost a few ounces of their precious weight. Both had lower O2 numbers, borderline of needing oxygen therapy. We were at risk of returning to children's hospital. We did a neb of albuterol and surprisingly it made a slight difference. She was comfortable sending us home and gave us a prescription for albuterol/neb.
The boys were sounding pretty good, sleeping and breathing soundly. They started getting worse again so I gave them their next Neb, success for Sawyer, less for Logan but he's definitely sounded worse before.
It's going to be another long sleepless night watching my babies breath.
RSV is scary for infants, especially up to a year. Kids and adults probably get here every winter but it just presents itself as a cold. Babies just can't handle it as well, and it can be fatal. There's no treatment, just run its course and help as needed with oxygen. Even nebulizers have a low success rate against RSV.
The good news: RSV hits its peak between 5 and 7 days. We know we are at least 5 and maybe 6 days in, almost through. I the unfortunate part is that they jumped from one illness to RSV so we can't be 100% when it started, it's just an estimate. Either way, we're almost there. Just trying to avoid going back to children's.
Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Cloth diapering - newbie reviews
I wonder if I would have chose cloth diapers for Gabriel. Surely the need to cut costs wouldn't have been a factor, but the cuteness definitely would have! I never even considered it for Evelyn because my vision was prefolds with safety pins and rubber pants. Boy have the times changed.
A group of my friends have been sending me their used (and some new) diapers to try. This has saved me a ton. I couldn't afford a trial and had no idea how I'd afford enough diapers even just to start a basic stash. Then what happens if I invested a bunch of money and didn't like those kinds? Luckily they've sent me a variety of styles, brands and sizes to try out.
This is the same group of women who entered me into the Pay-it-forward campaign through diaperparties.com - which I won thanks to everyone's support and votes! I couldn't have done it without you!
Before starting cloth diapering the twins, I had done tons of research and asked a million questions of my cloth diapering friends. After 2 days, these are my thoughts.
My initial assumption was that I would prefer Flips brand covers with prefolds and inserts. This option gives you the opportunity to use the cover for more than one diaper change as long as I didn't get messy. In my mind that meant less washing to do. But I'm not certain the lack of washing and ability to reuse makes up for the ease of a pocket diaper. Although I think they are slightly less bulky than a pocket and I do like that.
There are a bunch of different ways to fold a prefold. I tried only a few, for each one I used a Snappi to hold the diaper together. A far cry from the safety pins used generations before. I tried the newspaper fold (which Logan pooped out of right away - by poop'd out I mean only out of the prefold, the cover still held everything inside). I also tried the jelly roll fold, which successfully kept all the poo off the cover. I tried simply trifolding it and laying it inside the cover similar to a insert, but both the prefold and the insert I used had slid around inside the cover (possibly because the cover was still a hair too big).
I also tried a Thirsties cover. It only lasted one diaper change before Sawyer poo'd and made a mess of it. All the poo stayed inside, but the newspaper fold I attempted did not stop him from making a mess of the cover. The plus side to Thirsties, they have leg gussets to help hold the contents inside the cover.
I also tested Fuzzibunz OS pockets. I like these, it's simple to put on much like a disposable diaper. I like how small they are compared to some other brands. These seem to fit the boys best right now as they are both under 10lbs. I did struggle a little bit with figuring out the snaps at first. I used a regular insert (folded down slightly to size) inside the pocket. It's a bit bulky, but does the job well. They poo'd and I changed it and I worked out fine. I think if I had used a newborn insert it would have been less bulky.
I also tried a few Alvas OS pockets. I also like these for their ease and after checking their pricing, I like the cost too. They also have cute prints that I definitely appreciate. Initially they seemed a bit big, and they are. But they still held everything inside. I simply used a regular insert for these.
For now I am slightly limited on my supplies. I am using a wet bag to store the dirty diapers. I don't rinse the diapers unless its an unusually bad one (the boys are breastfed, so no need) I am washing every night so I have diapers for the next day. I used Bumgenius brand soap the first day and ended up with a lot of bad stains, I also think I didn't use hot enough water. I rinse on cold first, then wash on hot, rinse twice and hang dry. It goes faster than it sounds. I now use Tide powder and all the stains were gone today.
I spend my days mostly downstairs, so I've set up a 3 drawer system to make changes easier for me. The final system and set up will wait till I am more settled in my process.
I am am anxious to see what items come in my prize pack. I know it's big but I have no idea what to expect in it. I have my eyes on a few things I'd like to buy and try, but I don't want to buy anything until I know what I have!
So far this is all I've been able to try. The first diaper took probably 10 solid minutes to put on, but I'm already getting much quicker.
I started the boys in cloth and at the same time I am still working on potty training Ms Evelyn. My mom came to help again today, we are doing a whole new potty system in our house :) and Evelyn is doing good, we just have to break through her stubbornness.
My next endeavor (tomorrow): cloth wipes!
A group of my friends have been sending me their used (and some new) diapers to try. This has saved me a ton. I couldn't afford a trial and had no idea how I'd afford enough diapers even just to start a basic stash. Then what happens if I invested a bunch of money and didn't like those kinds? Luckily they've sent me a variety of styles, brands and sizes to try out.
This is the same group of women who entered me into the Pay-it-forward campaign through diaperparties.com - which I won thanks to everyone's support and votes! I couldn't have done it without you!
Before starting cloth diapering the twins, I had done tons of research and asked a million questions of my cloth diapering friends. After 2 days, these are my thoughts.
My initial assumption was that I would prefer Flips brand covers with prefolds and inserts. This option gives you the opportunity to use the cover for more than one diaper change as long as I didn't get messy. In my mind that meant less washing to do. But I'm not certain the lack of washing and ability to reuse makes up for the ease of a pocket diaper. Although I think they are slightly less bulky than a pocket and I do like that.
There are a bunch of different ways to fold a prefold. I tried only a few, for each one I used a Snappi to hold the diaper together. A far cry from the safety pins used generations before. I tried the newspaper fold (which Logan pooped out of right away - by poop'd out I mean only out of the prefold, the cover still held everything inside). I also tried the jelly roll fold, which successfully kept all the poo off the cover. I tried simply trifolding it and laying it inside the cover similar to a insert, but both the prefold and the insert I used had slid around inside the cover (possibly because the cover was still a hair too big).
I also tried a Thirsties cover. It only lasted one diaper change before Sawyer poo'd and made a mess of it. All the poo stayed inside, but the newspaper fold I attempted did not stop him from making a mess of the cover. The plus side to Thirsties, they have leg gussets to help hold the contents inside the cover.
I also tested Fuzzibunz OS pockets. I like these, it's simple to put on much like a disposable diaper. I like how small they are compared to some other brands. These seem to fit the boys best right now as they are both under 10lbs. I did struggle a little bit with figuring out the snaps at first. I used a regular insert (folded down slightly to size) inside the pocket. It's a bit bulky, but does the job well. They poo'd and I changed it and I worked out fine. I think if I had used a newborn insert it would have been less bulky.
I also tried a few Alvas OS pockets. I also like these for their ease and after checking their pricing, I like the cost too. They also have cute prints that I definitely appreciate. Initially they seemed a bit big, and they are. But they still held everything inside. I simply used a regular insert for these.
For now I am slightly limited on my supplies. I am using a wet bag to store the dirty diapers. I don't rinse the diapers unless its an unusually bad one (the boys are breastfed, so no need) I am washing every night so I have diapers for the next day. I used Bumgenius brand soap the first day and ended up with a lot of bad stains, I also think I didn't use hot enough water. I rinse on cold first, then wash on hot, rinse twice and hang dry. It goes faster than it sounds. I now use Tide powder and all the stains were gone today.
I spend my days mostly downstairs, so I've set up a 3 drawer system to make changes easier for me. The final system and set up will wait till I am more settled in my process.
I am am anxious to see what items come in my prize pack. I know it's big but I have no idea what to expect in it. I have my eyes on a few things I'd like to buy and try, but I don't want to buy anything until I know what I have!
So far this is all I've been able to try. The first diaper took probably 10 solid minutes to put on, but I'm already getting much quicker.
I started the boys in cloth and at the same time I am still working on potty training Ms Evelyn. My mom came to help again today, we are doing a whole new potty system in our house :) and Evelyn is doing good, we just have to break through her stubbornness.
My next endeavor (tomorrow): cloth wipes!
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